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Hallo!
Ich bin bereits 24,studiere an der TU Wien und mache derzeit meine Diplomarbeit im Ausland. Die derzeitige Regelung zur Verlängerung der Familienbeihilfe aufgrund eines Auslandsaufenthaltes ist: "Dein Auslandsaufenthalt muss in einen Zeitraum fallen, wo du berechtigt bist, Familienbeihilfe zu beziehen! " (auch nachzulesen www.oeh.ac.at)
Wie soll man nun mit nur 273€ Erasmus Stipendium/Monat ohne zusätzliche Familienbeihilfe Miete/Ernährung im Ausland auskommen bzw die Abschlussarbeit des Studiums fertig bringen?Und dabei sind noch keine Nebenkosten wie Fahrtkosten, Materialkosten etc. miteinbezogen. Soll damit bezweckt werden, dass Auslandserfahrungen only during the Bakk.Ausbildung possible - or even only for the privileged financially - for the average consumer is certainly not affordable in the future?

Should internships represent an alternative? - Definitely not, because here also have inputs such as travel and rent will be paid.

is Allen a stay abroad approved of, even in the economy and the industry demands, but I think in future, it is not as easy to possible - certainly not as a master student, which the labor market und man selbst mehr hätte.  

Liebe MinisterInnen!
Was gedenken sie hinsichtlich Finanzierung von Auslandssemestern zu tun? Wollen Sie den Arbeitsmarkt dazu auffordern die Anforderungen niederer zu halten? Wollen Sie Personen dazu zwingen auf Horizonts- und Persönlichkeitsentwicklung zu verzichten? Wollen Sie vermeiden zufünftiges "Humankapital" weltweit vom Arbeitsmarkt fernzuhalten ?- Denn das würden sie ohne Möglichkeiten eines Auslandsaufenthaltes mit Sicherheit tun.
Wieso lassen Sie engagierte, bemühte junge Menschen, die gleichzeitig das Staatskapital darstelln the next few years, in the rain? Know-how that can not be acquired by their own nationals is a major setback for the entire state, and economically.

with highly verständislosem greeting
I. Vdh

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I am 24 and have just started my master's program and live Wipäd of currently 750 € / month (including FB) .
When I was in the 5th Class HBLA have decided to study business education has just moved from diploma to the Bachelor-Master, what this study has from the outset has extended for 2 semesters (from 9 to 11, which is almost a medical school the same) ...
Then I moved then from Innsbruck to Vienna (it is supposed to stand on its own) because I was too close to home with four younger siblings and live in IBK financing even more difficult than in Vienna. I have been the beginning of my studies ever went to work (promotion, waiters in bars or cafes) have, and apart from my parents from the family allowance received no support (as I said 4 siblings) and the study aid I had to mostly abandon (2 semesters I get 100 € a month, despite my many children , Parents to remind children whose parents are self-employed and farmers get full scholarship - but only in passing).
the weekend then I hear: "boy must also play their part!" (And the pensions will be increased by an average 0.9%) now I have to decide within two months to go to work at least another day (by which I can verschmeißen my second degree in biology teaching complete) so that my life consist only of work and study leave (which it is already almost) or to try with my bachelor's degree full-time job related to the dream may be rejected by the teacher and to throw my study (for Masters Degree offer LV `s only on a semester basis, and are, therefore, to study with slower go bad ).... because it is not just about the 200 € family aid, even Öffi ticket or scholarship (if you get one) probably fall away.
disguised These restrictions on access to master studies as the abolition of the FB I find not only extremely cowardly, but also socially unacceptable and very short-sighted.

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I am 23 and am currently in the 5th Double semester of my studies at the WU. Currently, I am on semester abroad and following with concern what happens in the meantime, in Austria.

I am certainly not Student will walk and finish with my two studies within 7 semesters, which is still totally ok. Unfortunately, I do not know how my last semester, and especially the subsequent master's degree (without the job is hardly possible terms) to finance.

I get study grant and orphan's pension because I'm an orphan and I am very grateful for the financial support without the I could not study.

If I am now 24, is my orphan's pension shall be deleted and it is very doubtful whether the grant authority increases the grant by the amount of FBH. I expect the worst of times - so that they also lack the money and they do not increase because of it.

I also have to assure myself (25 € per month) and the more expensive ticket of the Vienna Transport semester now (128 in total - 32 € per month).

means that I at once a month 500 euro will go, which is more than 50% of what I get now. From September 2011 I will have to deduct my humble Housing at 120 euros for survival. Of these, one must have the self-insurance and deduct the Wiener Linien ticket - as much as 63 euros a month makes - me umgehaun the amount as I have calculated the first time.

63 euros per month. to survive - either hungry or studies throw. Thank you government!

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I'm 22, an Erasmus semester abroad do. This half year has expanded my horizons, I have networks, so friends from all over Europe met. I've learned a lot professionally to do so. I am as a person developed. And actually, I drove here all dranzuhængen another semester. But nearly 3,000 km away decides you to cut the family allowance. What does that mean for me? I in two years, so one can say, before there is nothing. I have no idea how to without the money to continue my studies. An extension of the Erasmus placement, I no longer even think. Thank Austria. Thank you assholes!

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I do not know what I need to create a separate post, so I write here just a comment:

Although I am only 20 and a girl, but I also a September child started school and am at 7 and studied one year in a different city something else, I've started this year in Vienna with my twin study.

last year, or better said in the summer, I've torn up the ass and deserves a lot of money to enable me to study in Vienna can be (in the faith, I would FBH also help get more ).

the moment I am not really work (only from time to graduate, which brings me, however, no regular income) - but will probably change / hopefully in early November, thanks to the reduction of FBH . Right now I'm 105 € grant and what I have I produced last year, which is becoming less and less.

My FBH stays with my parents - because they needed more than I do. You jump in but as soon as it should be just for me.

Even IF I would get my own FBH, I stayed around 90 €, when my home room (double room) wegrechnet. 90 € for a phone bill, internet, public transport, train travel, medicine, clothing, books and lecture notes, FOOD. A month. And I know it's me by a mile is better than many other students.

In other words, no one comes to work as a student in this country are not enough. Is ok, we go to work stop. We then calculate my position with ~ 300 € (slightly, is more of a double degree with at least 45 credits per semester, unfortunately, not inside) a month more and +24 years: Let's say I find a halfway decent single room at a halfway decent price - about 270 €. (And yes, I know, the right to a private room for everyone who lives in a double bed-rooms, that one can have little or not at his rest, because there's always someone). Stay or 30 €. Plus grant € 105 € = 135. Less Wiener Linien-semester ticket (which is more expensive due to the loss of FBH NOR) - 32 € / month (or € 128.5 per semester). Remain € 103. Again, distance calculation Internet, distance calculation cell phone bill, medication and distance calculation in one-month driving-home-because-You-Will-Not-That-The-Family-a-distance calculation = would forget mir ca. 50€ im Monat bleiben.  

Ich bin ein SEHR sparsamer Mensch, aber mit 50€ im Monat kommt man echt nicht aus, wenn man nicht eine Ess-Krankheit anstrebt und sozial völlig inkompetent werden will.

Ich bin GEGEN eine Kürzung der Familienbeihilfe, nicht nur weil es mich betreffen wird - ich komme schon IRGENDWIE aus. Aber wegen meinem Bruder, den es genau erwischen wird, weil er erst mit 20,5 zu studieren anfangen wird können. Wegen meinen Eltern, die sich zwei studierende Kinder nicht leisten werden können. Wegen den tausenden von anderen Studierenden, die es jetzt concerns. But mainly because the other hundreds of thousands of families that are doing worse.

The government must finally understand that the reduction of the FBH not only for students with an enormous damage; but with families. You must understand that there are families that are of this money SUBJECT. You must understand that no one can save on the families, because children were not even our future?

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Matthias, 22
following mail yesterday I have written to the Ministry of Finance ... I do not expect an answer ... The text describes my financial situation

Ladies and gentlemen

I hope this message will be read and not be simply deleted.
I am a student of computer science in Graz and am originally from Innsbruck.

my studies I really enjoy visiting each lecture and will next work
semester as a tutor. Furthermore, I'm down to two tests in
minimum period of my study (3 semesters).

Since I was born in September 1988, previously visited and not as a HTL
19% of all young people in 2009 was disabled, could I start studying first with 21
. I wear it really any responsibility.

Yes I am of course very well for higher taxation. Everyone must contribute something to the current
improvement. On the 13th Children's money I could easily do without
, will accept a small reduction from 23 or a greater dependence
the study progresses. But please explain to me why I
as a diligent student of a rewarding course of my existence Convention would be rendered
, while a pensioner or a high earners or a car driver
had to take a moderate loss (of course there are there extreme cases
no question).

brings protest just nothing that I know. I think most students
recognize that savings are needed somewhere easy. But
why you want it just to all students without differentiation make it so difficult?

taxed the rich - tax the banks
ok - ok
taxed me in four years when I graduate - very fine and fair
but please let me finish studying. That I may bring more money later
can.

I ask you therefore to carry on this roll call.
Thank you for your valuable time.

Sincerely, Matthew V.

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I was fortunate to study in the old diploma program and also get baseline to family allowance. I'm worried about my two sisters (twins, 14 years old, now in its 5th Class AHS). Should be - which is pretty safe - both decide to study, so are my parents (both employed) not only from the fact found to support two full student and simultaneously to study incoming children (cost of living, according to study significant material costs etc.) but are then also at the same time with the abolition of the ENTIRE face child support for both children. Even for two workers to cope with this burden is no longer home. Possible scenarios:
- both have to be financed by jobs to part their studies themselves (with negative effects on their academic progress, which is indeed sanctioned again)
- only study one of the two can
- study neither can (which fairness and even is more realistic)

love government: investment in education (and that includes a sound and secure government support) are investments in the future. masßnahmen their concern not only the current student cohorts, but also the following. that they are in no way able to even think in the medium term, they have proven with this decision once more!

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I'm 24 and certainly not a "walk-student" and am very rarely away once the holidays, I almost always use to learn and to write papers. I follow Two studies with great zeal and a third as far as time permits. And I do not do out of boredom, but because I seriously aspiring to work in an interdisciplinary research or work. Had I known 10 years ago, which would plan the current finance minister, I would: first
to the HTL and waived me the cheapest AHS-Matura in just 4 years caught (anyway I think more and more that I am punished by the longer duration of the HTL), 2nd
I amputated one leg, so I would have been inappropriate.

Then I would have to study can begin with 18 and would soon be finished. My scholarship decreases from year to year, to simultaneously steigen Miete und Lebenserhaltungskosten. Jetzt fällt für mich in ein paar Monaten auch die Kinderbeihilfe weg. Ich hätte vor drei Jahren nie gedacht, dass das Ende der Fahnenstange so schnell erreicht sein würde...

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Claudia, 24

I am also a September baby and went with the first seven years in the school. After the fourth year AHS I decided to visit a secondary business education so HAK.
At the conclusion of the HAK I was almost 21 years. Shortly after my 21th birthday I started a Bachelor degree at a University. After three years of study I decided to study a master dranzuhängen because I was not possible to get a job where I could get paid more than a Maturant.
Besides my studies I work naturally and get the 350 € (geringfühgig-more time, I do not study more, unfortunately, because I should indeed still exist.)
I find it sad to see that this important source of livelihood is removed especially if you studied in the minimum study period and never lost a semester or year.
I also find it very hard that Mr. Hundsdorfer says in today's ZIB 2 that his daughter has received no child support because she has gesandelt and he has allowed the study anyway. Dear Mr. Hundsdorfer not all Austrians in has an annual salary in your height.

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Mit 7 eingeschult - 19,5 Maturiert (HTL) - mit 21 studieren begonnen (Bakk. TU).
Wollte zuerst kein armer Student sein und habe ein wenig gearbeitet, habe dann gemerkt, dass ich mit dem Stud. nicht wirklich weiterkomme.
Habe die Arbeit sausen lassen und wahnwitzige 68 ECTS in einem Jahr gemacht und nun wird mir gesagt, ich soll bis 24 fertig werden -> Nun ja, wh I shall always ready to 25, but then? So I'm not satisfied, would also make a master's degree and still left to BWL, so am not just a naked non-technicians.
As I said the Gfüllte me to stand on its own -> I will! And guess what?
I know I'm so good that I already have offers from GER and USA?
And remember What? This I will do so safely, and only one reason: This can make with the Austrian politicians do with my taxes!
In Your Face!

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My two sisters and myself are students. My siblings are medical students and therefore it is theoretically impossible to them to graduate with 24 years of age.

Also I will do my sociology degree may not pass below this limit, even if I finished in minimum time would be.

is specifically through the reduction of age for 2 years now for our family a financial burden from 16 € 115.4 due to the loss of aid.

€ 2,685.90 per student per year (13x family allowance á á € 152.70 plus 12x Kinderabsetzbetrag 58.40)

depend on the family allowance but also the co-insurance with the parents and discounts for term papers and other tickets.

A self-insurance costs for students per year € 286.08. So would result from the insurance for my family costs in the amount of 1 € 716.48.


is all in all, the reduction of family allowance for my family a financial charge of 17 € 831.88 dar.

I wonder whether politicians know how much money is put my family through this cut the family allowance. How will my family compensate for the immense loss that simple ...

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Daniel, 23

I've decided at 15 to a computer teaching and learning.
When I completed this training with distinction, I wanted to embark on the often-called second chance education and have the evening classes made up. I began then to study at 22 and am now finished my STEP. Years of trouble so I have 2 to Bakk. (Economics) I am an orphan, I can not call me by my mother to finance, but it takes me so well it under the arms.
But now I have to ask myself if it would not have been better to make training in my field (computer science) and to stay in the job.
I was just such a simpleton, and thought I could rely on the state.
Now I'll have to stop studying - left a lot of time in the life that I have to justify in the future ...

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Pia, 24

Since 2008 I have been studying full time at FH Wien. I work part time at a catering and earn about 300 € in Monat. Meine Miete beträgt 260 Euro. Mein Studium wird noch bis 2012 dauern. Was soll ich tun? Meine Woche hat nicht mehr Tage.

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Constantin, 24

Ich bin ein Septemberkind, das nach der HAK ein Jahr Zivildienst geleistet hat. Ich habe mein Medizinstudium mit 20 Jahren begonnen und bin auf die Familienbeihilfe angewiesen. Im Glauben, bis 26 mit staatlicher Unterstützung rechnen zu können, studiere ich mit der nötigen Anstrengung um in Mindestzeit fertig zu werden. Mein Studentenjob wirft 310 Euro im Monat ab, meine Miete kostet 250 Euro. Mir werden knapp 40% meiner Existenz unter dem Boden weggerissen.  Mr Pröll, Mr. Mitterlehner, what is your funding proposal?